2000s hackers: My dream is to connect all of my devices to the internet.
2020s hackers: My dream is to disconnect all of my devices from the internet.

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2040s hackers: desperately trying to disconnect any device from any of the seven internets

@sydneyfalk @eldaking we're going to have seven completely separate internets?

that sounds awful and also highly unlikely given capitalism's desire to connect everything to their data vacuums

@ben @sydneyfalk @eldaking Well I mean we already have the internet split across national borders which is probably why 7 was chosen (7 continents). Already we see companies that bow down the authoritarian rule for money have no problem, but protesters are silenced. 2040 may be a real disappointment of the potential of interconnection and the lofty dreams from the early days of the net.

@ben @sydneyfalk @eldaking We currently have two separate internets: IPv4 and IPv6. 🤷‍♀️

@ben @sydneyfalk @eldaking No, but you can have a device connected to both, or a device that's connected to both in between, to bridge the gap through a tunnel.

@ben tired: unite everything under bureaucratized, unaccountable hegemony

wired: fragment everything in varying degrees of proprietariness and crony capitalist regulation so that only a tiny inner technocracy of gatekeepers has any remotely easy access to what's going on at any given moment

@ben @sydneyfalk @eldaking

1. THE Internet
2. North Korean Internet
3. ruNet, that upcoming Russia-only internet
4. Chinese Internet (partially)

Almost there

@ml @ben @sydneyfalk @eldaking
Well:
* all root DNS are under US control (so we can consider non-national control as a US control).
* Australian internet regulation is a bit hard since about a decade too and block some foreign sites.
* Iran have a control of what can go in/out of the country internet connection network.
* French provider patch their DNS to avoid noobs to access some sites too.

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