onf is a user on elekk.xyz. You can follow them or interact with them if you have an account anywhere in the fediverse. If you don't, you can sign up here.
onf @onf

I just realized... I'm pretty sure your average DVD-R burns faster than most peoples' upload speed. In other words, burning a DVD can be literally faster than uploading to the cloud.

· Web · 1 · 3

@onf Not taking into account the time it takes to figure out how to do it :)

@elomatreb Yes, I do admit to spending way too much time staring at/faffing with imgburn before starting. (Don't wanna make a coaster!)

@onf bike messengers are still a very fast data transfer method

@nev Which is actually kind of sad... in all seriousness though, I wonder how much this is still used.

@onf @nev Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes^H^H^H^H^HDVDs.

@noelle @nev I mean... you could use tapes too... there's even a system to store data on VHS. (Not that it's very good, nor that it'd be very efficient in 2018.)

@onf yes, but DVDRs are not archival! They have a shelf life. Maybe a shorter one than you think!

@rotatingskull lol, you think your cloud provider will still be up (and willing/able to let you at your files) in 5 years? And I'm being generous in both directions...

@onf im not urging you to buy cloud space

what i am saying is, those DVDRs in that shoebox in the closet, when you get them out in ten years, they might not work anymore

hard drives are good!

@rotatingskull Yeah I've found 10 years to be about the max these discs last for. But if you're burning something that's not so important and you're going to buy a drive within those 10 years and back up the files to that... there's less sensible things to do.

How they're stored matters too, especially if they're going in a HOT closet...

@onf our networking teacher once made us do some math where we had to compare the speed of:
-gigabit ethernet cable going to the next town
vs
-a puli dog with a high capacity usb flash drive affixed to its collar

turns out, if the file is big enough, you should send the dog

(and I think some big company also did a data transfer by just packing HDDs into 1-2 trucks)

@grainloom Yeah, for a very big file even gigabit might not be fast enough... still, you're getting very specialist there indeed. (That said, knowing me I'm liable to end up using that method one day.)

@grainloom @onf Google does it to set up new data centers, Amazon does it regularly enough they have a fleet and you can lease one of the trucks to move shit to their cloud servers, NASA uses it for their gigantic scientific data sets... it's really common when you get into really, really big collections of data.

@keiyakins @grainloom Yeah, if I had exabytes of data to transfer... I don't even know if the more advanced forms of ethernet that do over a gigabit would help.

@grainloom @onf Quoth an old CompSci teacher some 25 or so years ago:

"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a Yugo full of backup-tapes."