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TIL about the Cagots, a group of people in France and Spain who experienced systemic hatred and discrimination because... they were Cagots.

They weren't any different from the other people living near them - same skin and hair color, same language, same religion, etc. - but if you were born to a Cagot family, you were a Cagot, and the rest of the people hated and shunned you. And nobody nowadays knows why; the origins of the discrimination have been lost to time.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cagot

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@woozle @noelle I don’t think it needs to be a threat, even. One of the explanations for the stability of cultures with minimal social mobility (caste systems, strong class systems) is that they forestall resource-use that would otherwise go into competition and can therefore keep more people alive. (So attempts to change kill a lot of people during the transient chaos and change gets a justly bad reputation.)

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@noelle I can't get my head around this, it sounds like a heavy-handed sci-fi metaphor but it's a completely real thing that happened

@aeonofdiscord I know, right? Like if I ran across this in fiction I’d think “the author needs to learn some subtlety”.

@noelle today I read the entire Wikipedia article about Cagots. Fascinating

@noelle Weird. My first guess was that they were the descendents of former heretics, given the location, but I guess the article shows that's considered unlikely.

@noelle This happens a lot in many cultures.

Cagots are similar to Japanese burakumin, Korean baekjeong, and India's dalits (often doing work considered "unclean").

In the case of the burakumin and dalits, they *still* face discrimination despite government protection. They differ in no way from their neighbours in language, but are still ostracised.

Chinese tankas (although they're possibly a separate ethnic group, no one knows where they come from) are also outcasts who live on boats.

@noelle (specifically in the case of the Tankas, it's known they come from China, but it's not exactly known what ethnic group they come from; the leading theory as far as I know is that they were the original inhabitants of Guandong before the Han Chinese displaced them)