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English trivia (sorry, jordy): "a" is to "an" as "thy" is to "thine". That is, "thy" comes before a consonant, and "thine" comes before a vowel. "Thy seeds", "thine acorns".

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@noelle Why do we even bother with words that start with vowels? Just call it a nacorn and be done with it...

@dhasenan What's funny is that it usually goes the other way. "a narange" became "an orange", for example.

@noelle It’s funny because I was just wondering what the difference was

@noelle Do you know if this is related to the phrase “mine own”

@jordyd I looked it up, and yes, historically "my" was before consonants and "mine" was before vowels.

@noelle @jordyd and then we have words like “uncle” which were originally “nuncle” but the N migrated across the space!

@fluffy @jordyd Ah, that's the example I was looking for earlier! I used "orange" instead (originally "a narange", as seen in Spanish "naranja" etc.).

@noelle @jordyd yeah that’s a good one! and then there’s the reverse that happens sometimes, like “an other” -> “another” -> “a whole nother”

@noelle Huh. Guess I finally know why so many old hymns used the phrase "Mine eyes". That used to drive me nuts as a grammar-obsessed adolescent.

@noelle
Consider the similarities:
Thine/mine
Thy/my
Thee/mee
Thou/mou

@noelle so I've been thinking about this a lot since last night and its relation to using "mine" as a... noun? *looks* predicate. e.g. "This is mine." That implies that the "default" form was the -n version, I think? Or that there's some other sound/grammatical thing going on involving clauses... 🤔

@InspectorCaracal I mentioned later that "my" and "mine" used to follow the same rules - "my" before consonants, "mine" before vowels - and in that circumstance the "before the vowel" version is often used when there is no following word.

@noelle right but I'm thinking *why* that version was used. I don't know if there are any examples other than articles and possessives that do the vowel thing to compare it to, are there?

Does that mean you could plausibly evolve to say "this is an"-- wait. *stares at the word "one"*