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CTA ATTENTION ALL FEDIVERSE ADMINS: 

On July 4th Gab is coming on to the Fediverse by switching over to Mastodon on their servers.

This means that you can shut the door on them today by preemptively have them fully suspended from your instances. So your users do not have risk getting harassed by any of their users, and they from the start be blocked off from major portions of the Fediverse.

Thank you for your consideration and :boost_ok:

re: CTA ATTENTION ALL FEDIVERSE ADMINS: 

@maloki Is there a specific instance or server I can block? I'm running Friendica, not Mastodon.

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@FASA_Andrew_1879 I believe it's 2 servers. Gab.com is the main one, and it's possibly another one which I can't remember right now :D

re: CTA ATTENTION ALL FEDIVERSE ADMINS: 

@maloki @FASA_Andrew_1879 Gab.ai, I hear

@cj on it – we'll be adding anti-fascist language to our CoC this weekend.

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@maloki what’s the instance url to block? .com and .ai ? or is there a different one

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@gingerrroot Those two are the ones we know of right now

CTA ATTENTION ALL FEDIVERSE ADMINS: another one 

@maloki and update: i also saw someone saying they have an .io but i haven’t checked that yet

CTA ATTENTION ALL FEDIVERSE ADMINS: another one 

@gingerrroot .io doesn't resolve for me, I think maybe they said it because I said ai or io

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@maloki Is there a list of instances?

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@sara It's atleast gab.com and then maybe another gab.ai or io? something like that. I don't remember.

re: CTA ATTENTION ALL FEDIVERSE ADMINS: 

@maloki @sara Deleted my earlier message to say I just came across this list: efdn.club/@norikawa/1023008799

re: CTA ATTENTION ALL FEDIVERSE ADMINS: 

@sara @maloki They don’t exist yet. Be on the lookout for further posting when it actually happens.

re: CTA ATTENTION ALL FEDIVERSE ADMINS: 

@riking They have publicly announced that they are making gab.com into an instance it's probably not going to be another domain, and if it is we still have 2 weeks to find out. . @sara

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@SelfsameSynonym Well, it's a step one. And Florence does have a chance to add features on here. If people submit the PRs we'll accept them especially in regards to this.

Privacy 

@SelfsameSynonym I'm not sure what you mean.

You can read the issues in the repo of you want more details right this moment.

I'm in bed, and about to fall asleep, because medicine.
I'll get back to you tomorrow.

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@SelfsameSynonym @maloki oh. That explains the behaviour we've seen.

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@SelfsameSynonym @maloki and it would work the same in any other federated system without authentication basically

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@SelfsameSynonym @maloki it's not an excuse. It's just what is public is public for everyone. Another possibility is share with specific groups. Tell me how I'm wrong please.

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@charlag You're not wrong, and I don't think we should engage with infighting, we are on the same side here.
Let's focus on what we can do, and see where that'll lead us
@SelfsameSynonym

instance suspensions 

@SelfsameSynonym you're not wrong about this, and I'm trying to start some constructive conversations about this over with Florence.

@charlag

instance suspensions 

@SelfsameSynonym @maloki well, I understand how it works, thanks. Would it be better if Nazi instance saw that they're blocked and fetched statuses some other way?
Maybe it could be harder for, I can't tell for sure but it complicates a lot of things, kills relaying of statuses and you can still open that instance and read everything?

instance suspensions 

@charlag From all anti-abuse reports and stuff I've read, making it harder for them is actually _beneficial_ to countering a lot of the shit they do.

Out of sight out of mind kinda deal.
@SelfsameSynonym

instance suspensions 

@charlag From all anti-abuse reports and stuff I've read, making it harder for them is actually _beneficial_ to countering a lot of the shit they do.

Out of sight out of mind kinda deal.
@SelfsameSynonym

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CTA ATTENTION ALL FEDIVERSE ADMINS: 

@bclindner @maloki thanks for the notice. I've already blocked the gab.com and gab.ai domains but if there are others, let me know so I can block them too πŸ‘ I'll be working on adding explicit anti-fascist language to our Code of Conduct this weekend.

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@ashfurrow @maloki I think we've also identified gab.io. It would be ideal to somehow block *.gab.* but I don't know if that's possible on your end.

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@bclindner @maloki Sadly, the domain blocks aren't compatible with wildcards.

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@ashfurrow @maloki Figures. If any other problematic instances show up I'm sure we'll know shortly.

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@gudenau I know it's ruby at least.

I think rails are involved, but right now my mind is totally spacing on if it's actually true.

@ashfurrow @bclindner

CTA ATTENTION ALL FEDIVERSE ADMINS: 

@maloki @gudenau @bclindner Yeah it is RoR but the structure of the code might make domain blocks with wildcards difficult. If the check is running often, turning a string comparison into a Regex check might have performance implications, for example.

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@gudenau @maloki @bclindner I mentioned performance as one possible consideration. As usual with Matodon (and indeed, all OSS projects), the real impediment to implementing this change is getting it merged by maintainers. The best start would be opening a new issue with a proposed solution – let me know if I can help.

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@ashfurrow @gudenau @bclindner I think we started discussing it in an issue on Florence. Care to contribute to the conversation there?

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@maloki @gudenau @bclindner Do you have a link? I searched the GitHub issues but it looks like discussion of Mastodon development is now split between different places.

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@gudenau @ashfurrow @bclindner

Repo: github.com/florence-social/mas

Let's see if I can find the actual issue I'm thinking about too.

Mainluy the discussions here:
github.com/florence-social/mas

but also this issue that doesn't have a lot of discussion yet.
github.com/florence-social/mas

CTA ATTENTION ALL FEDIVERSE ADMINS: 

@maloki @gudenau @bclindner Ah gotcha. I'm not even up to date with the various forks of Mastodon anymore, huh.

re: CTA ATTENTION ALL FEDIVERSE ADMINS: 

@gudenau @bclindner @maloki @ashfurrow You could just cache the state of the already 'known' domains, and have the regex check only run on the first request from an 'unknown' one. And have changing the domain block list purge the cache. That should be enough to keep performance good, especially after a bit of time for the cache to warm up.

CTA ATTENTION ALL FEDIVERSE ADMINS: 

@maloki
@chr please take note. I wouldn't like to federate with fascists.

Blocking gab 

@nipos they are switching the platform on gab.com to Mastodon, they made a public announcement to this affect.

.ai should also be preemptively blocked

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