@maloki I'm a fairly new Mastodon user, so there may well be a history here I'm not aware of, but as far as I can tell @Gargron has came across as willing to engage, and logical in his arguments for the "trending" feature, even if you may not agree with those arguments. Forking is of course fine if people don't like current direction, for instance greater community involvement in roadmap, which there may well be a case for, but yeah - the tone of this all just feels a little unpleasant.

@r0bbie I understand your view point.

Would you please be so kind to read my posts in this thread, and maybe take some time to deliberate on them, before continuing with this discussion?
https://elekk.xyz/@maloki/100138945927744676

When you've taken some time with it, and am willing to CW your take, and viewpoint. I'm happy to talk with you.

But today I'm going to focus on self-care. So maybe take this back up again tomorrow?

@maloki Sure, as I said was aware there may be a deeper history I was un-aware of. I'll have a further read. :)

@r0bbie You literally replied to "Here's all the relevant links!" by asking, instead of reading first.

You could've educated yourself already, instead of asking me to educate you.

@maloki Was being polite and keeping open mind in my last message, as I'd (apparently mis-) read the tone of your response to me to be in the same vein, although on re-reading it was perhaps meant with passive aggression. I'd already read majority of the links in your thread (as well as entire GitHub thread), and now scrolled through the rest. I'll reiterate, while forking if you disagree with direction is fine, I think the tone of #forkoff towards @Gargron comes across disproportionally hostile

@r0bbie No, It was not meant as passive aggressive.

You are the one tagging in Gargron in this conversation, instead of letting him have some space today.

You're the one taking the CWs off after I specifically asked you to keep them on for other people's sake. Making me do additional labour to be caring of others.

I'm sorry, but it's hard to have a good faith conversation with you right now.

So, take your time, and come back with questions if you have any, tomorrow.

@maloki I tagged Gargron because that only seemed polite if I was referring to him, particularly in context of standing up for him against what read to me like unnecessarily unpleasant hostility. I don't consider that I'm expressing anything that should require a "content warning" and it's up to me how I present my words. If you consider differently, that is up to you for how you present yours. Anyway, genuinely thanks for taking time to respond. Will keep an open mind on the topic via timeline.

@r0bbie I just wanted to give you a rundown on why I CW on discourse, and why I feel it's important to do so.

It's about protecting those vulnerable among us, who come here for respite, not reading rows and rows of discourse.

Especially applicable is "being forced to read things without CWs can drain my allotted spoons for today"
Spoons is a mental health metaphor, and about energy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoon_theory

@r0bbie just fyi, he told people to fork if they didn't like the current setup. People are. Hope that helps with your hostility concerns

@ratbaby Completely understand that, and that actually seems perfectly reasonable. One of the benefits of an open and federated network is that people can fork if they don't like the direction, by design. It's the tone that hashtag has taken (and of the origin GitHub issue) that felt unnecessarily unpleasant towards the developer, at least to me..

@r0bbie I mean there was unpleasantness on both sides. People got super upset and passionate, and he got stressed and lashed out. People came to an agreement (with him!) that forking is the best outcome.

@r0bbie
You're not entirely wrong, and sorry that I was defensive instead of explaining it properly.

Why "The Great Fork-Off Survey of 2018"?
There was another Great Mastodon Survey of 2017, so it was a throwback to that, for those who'd been around.

Why #ForkOff from the beginning as a hashtag? Because it was a way to reclaim the word and make it our own. Hostile "Just fork it", from others, was a reason for it happening.

@ratbaby