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Here's a thought for someone considering versus (iirc I saw something about this but now I can't find it): if ravelry isn't going to be your only source (and it doesn't have to be, say you don't have a printer or don't want to stay in front of the comp) consider your local library's craft section. Knitting is at least 3 times more popular than crochet in my town judging by shelf space. There's like 3 of the original stitch and bitch alone.

I mean make no mistake, I love crochet. But I think knitting is probably much easier from a resource perspective to get into.

@lapis It does seem that skill-wise, though, crocheters are more afraid of knitting than the other way around

... says the knitter who took 10 years to finally try to do some actual crocheting.

@JordiGH This is my personal opinion, but look at the appeal of crochet. Even though it uses more yarn, it works up faster. So if you're a child or impatient (or in general just learning) you see results faster.
So you get to knitting and you're like. "This is working up slow. Ugh."
Plus the most popular method of knitting here is English, which is SUPER SLOW. I think if they taught continental by default, which is more crochet like, crocheters would be happier to knit.

@lapis I know EZ advocates continental, but I think the speed difference is minimal. Throwers vs non-throwers seem to be about as fast, no? I think it's like qwerty vs dvorak for keyboards.

@lapis *Advocated. I can't believe I'm old enough to forget she's gone.

@JordiGH Never actually seen an English outside a tutorial video (That sounds weird out of context). It just looked so slow and tedious that I had to do continental. But I believe you.

@lapis Here in Canada I see everyone throwing! Even in French Canada, where I expected more of a French knitting culture. Nope! Even all of the knitting terms are in English.

But seriously, speed knitters in YouTube do throw:

youtube.com/watch?v=5cJJUQlaLl

(I mostly distinguish throwing vs not throwing because I think I do combined or reversed combined, so there are finer distinctions than English vs Continental.)

@JordiGH I'm beginning to think I strayed into religious territory.

@lapis @JordiGH the very fastest throwers use a knitting sheath or long straight needles tucked under an elbow. I’m decently fast at throwing and get something like 60 sts a minute if it’s plain knitting and I’m not thinking about it. It suits me.

@gannet @JordiGH orz I apologize to all knitters for my knitting discussion. It really does appear I crossed a line (into religious territory).

Yeah. I really do think it's a preference thing.

@lapis @JordiGH oh, I don’t care how people knit, so long as

A. They’re happy
B. They’re getting the results they want
C. They’re not hurting themselves

Sorry if it sounded like I meant anything else by what I said!

@gannet @JordiGH
I was partially jesting. I just was worried I struck a nerve. I'm really good at doing that!

@lapis @gannet I can't help but feeling that you're awfully cute, with your big nose avatar and your accidental and profusely apologetic blunder.

@lapis Btw, I love your avatar. Isn't it called a Mr Saturn or something like that?

@JordiGH God I wish this had the Mr. Saturn font but yes.
They're from The Earthbound/Mother series.

@lapis @JordiGH I agree - assess your needs! Speed? Crochet! Firm fabric for bags/housewears? Crochet! 3D shapes? Crochet!

Smooth fabric surface? Knit! Drapey fabric? Knit! Intricate color work? Knit! Vampire hunting? Knit! 😉

@lapis I love the library for their stitch dictionaries!

@Imani_knits Amen, I bought one from the craft store, but the library has like three others with different stitches. You can never run out of stitches it seems.