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@eightbitsamurai I want to repeat the argument I always use:

Let's assume that, indeed, hijabs are oppressive and women wear them against their will.

Then you pass a law saying that hijabis can't work here.

Now you have women being told what to wear, and because it's not their choice to wear it, can't take it off to get the job.

This piles oppression upon oppression. I'm so angry that Québec passed this law.

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@JordiGH @eightbitsamurai
Here's the argument I make:

The law forbids certain people from wearing religious symbols in the exercise of their functions. That forbids, for instance, an Orthodox Jewish man from wearing a kippah as a teacher. On the other hand, a non-religious teacher would be permitted to wear a kippah as a personal fashion choice.

What is the logic that permits an act for frivolous reasons, but forbids that same act for reasons of conscience?

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@mpjgregoire

>The law forbids certain people from wearing religious symbols in the exercise of their functions.

There is no reason for this law. This benefits no one. Québec is projecting its historical problems with Catholicism onto foreigners who have nothing to do with it.

Also, the law is about hijabs. Quebeckers need to stop pretending like this is an egalitarian law for everyone, when it overwhelmingly affects hijabis (whom they argue are oppressed by hijabs).

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@JordiGH
I think rather the secularism law is driven by hostility to Islam.

Confusion between the hijab and the niqab is also an important factor, I suspect.

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@mpjgregoire And, there's, like, 10 people in the whole province wearing a niqab or something. There was no need to pass a law about that, and certainly not *this* law.

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@JordiGH @eightbitsamurai

When they tried to pass a law forbidding headscarves in schools here, I remember reading a statement from some Muslim father. He said something along the lines of: "If my daughters can't wear headscarves to school, then they won't be going to school."

Those lawmakers think for some reason that if they ban something, then everyone will have no choice but submit & continue with their lives. They don't really see the consequences, including the most probable ones.

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@SeventhMagpie So either they're oppressed and by banning hijabs you make that oppression worse, or they are happy wearing what they're wearing, in which case it's none of your business taking away what they're happy to do.

@eightbitsamurai Ban suits but only for men. Women should still be allowed to wear suits because of reasons. 💚

@eightbitsamurai If we can get an exceptions for men in old-fashioned suits that are also carrying impractical and implausible fake weapons with gears on top and/or other steampunk implements, I'm all for banning suits before burqas!

(if we can't have that exceptions, then please don't ban either :) )

@eightbitsamurai look, when something goes very wrong on a national scale it’s probably the fault of a group of people who have the least amount of power and who are at the greatest degree of risk. Obviously.

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